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[Giles]

Depends what make and denim.

Some RJB jeans shrink 3" in waist.  Most TFH and IH raw, only shrink an inch.  My rule of thumb with TFH and IH is that if they fit reasonably well pre-soak then after a shrink and a stretch, they'll be fine.

[Finn666]

imo the waist is going to shrink after said wash…by wearing them when soaking, the waist/denim has to way to go so no shrinkage is happening. when washed on its own, the denim in the waist is going to shrink since nothing is there to keep it from doing that!
i'd say hot soak and wear them while doing so and after that, i'd just soak'em cold or wash'em cold. also wear them while they're still damp, that way you can stretch them back to your desired fit way easier as when they're dry!

[Giles]

I don't think we can give sensible advice until we know the brand and the denim….

[grandmasterben]

G etc. have more experience than myself for sure, but in my opinion if you are happy with the waist pre-soak you shouldn't worry. My flat heads, which are notoriously difficult to stretch back, were snug in the waist at first and after a hot wash shrunk 2 inches. They stretched back lickity split, so imo only worry about how tight everything else is. The waist will stretch.

[Jord666]

Thank you for all your advice guys! So from what I can gather I should hot soak them while wearing them and then if I ever wash them just wear them while damp so stretch them back out?

[Arabit]

Wear it while washing to avoid shrinkage at waist. Then I would wash it again to be sure it will not shrink in the inseam and then get it hemmed if you haven't yet

[Finn666]

@Jord666:

Thank you for all your advice guys! So from what I can gather I should hot soak them while wearing them and then if I ever wash them just wear them while damp so stretch them back out?

imo yes!

[superfuzz]

@Giles:

I don't think we can give sensible advice until we know the brand and the denim….

BINGO!

[Giles]

I tried…..

[superfuzz]

G, you are wise!

[Megatron1505]

So…..what sort of denim are we dealing with again? 

[Giles]

@superfuzz:

G, you are wise!

No I'm not, but the question is akin to "what are the best tyres to put on my bike?"

We need more data to give a considered response.

[DougNg]

Yeah, kind of frustrating. Someone in the knife thread one time said "pick me a knife, GO!"

Errrr

More data is necessary

[Jord666]

My apologies, I'm using tap talk and in work currently so didn't read all of the replies correctly. It's a pair of Tenderloin T-Riders I got off eBay

Best

[Giles]

And…...predictably the extra data does not help me, I have no experience of this denim.  I know that riffblastergeneral had/has a pair, maybe good idea to PM him....

[Jord666]

Ahh ok, haha, thank you all for your replies!

[Jord666]

And thanks Giles, I'll get onto him when I get home from work

[Seul]

My brother quit smoking yesterday - cold turkey… He was a pack a day man... I promised him 100 € if he'd finish the month, but wonder what else I can do to stimulate and encourage him?..

[mclaincausey]

Have you considered putting cloves in his cigarettes?

[Seul]

I'm just hoping he won't touch the damn things anymore… Cloves or no cloves...