The Flat Head
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Yeah it's iffy… Good luck finding what you want!
Jawnz looking pretty tasty if I may say so myself.
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Guys, as someone who used to work for Flat Head, I can tell you that Giles' evaluation of the business dynamic is spot on. They make a great product but the Japanese-ness can make business dealings difficult. My impression of what I've read about Haraki is that he is a major outlier from the normal Japanese way of thinking about business stuff - and it seems like it's worked out well for everyone involved in his case.
I love how a lot of Iron Heart shirts look but the fits just absolutely wouldn't work for me. On a shirt like the IHSH-109, for example, a Medium would fit me pretty good, except for being 4-5 inches too big in the chest. Flat Head's shirts fit great through the body, but I really wish they were longer in the sleeves and hem. Being tall and skinny really sucks if you're into cool clothes.
We have enough jean companies already, what we need is a company making awesome shirts from selvedge fabrics that are tailor-made. If I had any interest in (or knowledge about) running a business, this is what I would do.
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@Cold:
Guys, as someone who used to work for Flat Head, I can tell you that Giles' evaluation of the business dynamic is spot on. They make a great product but the Japanese-ness can make business dealings difficult. My impression of what I've read about Haraki is that he is a major outlier from the normal Japanese way of thinking about business stuff - and it seems like it's worked out well for everyone involved in his case.
I love how a lot of Iron Heart shirts look but the fits just absolutely wouldn't work for me. On a shirt like the IHSH-109, for example, a Medium would fit me pretty good, except for being 4-5 inches too big in the chest. Flat Head's shirts fit great through the body, but I really wish they were longer in the sleeves and hem. Being tall and skinny really sucks if you're into cool clothes.
We have enough jean companies already, what we need is a company making awesome shirts from selvedge fabrics that are tailor-made. If I had any interest in (or knowledge about) running a business, this is what I would do.
I can't agree with this post more. We must share a similar body type. I'm good with the IH fits, but Flat Head would be a serious home run if the shirts were cut longer with longer arms. No question. They simply aren't suited to long, lanky men.
And you're dead on about shirts. There's hay to be made focusing exclusively on finely loomed selvedge fabric shirts if only for the fact that so much more variation is possible. It does seem to me that there's a hole in the market that companies like Iron Heart and Flat Head are addressing… but not filling.
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I think Cold Summer re wrote all the English product info on THF's. He went to visit the people who actually made the clothes / jeans - all in the Flat Head thread in super denim if I recall correctly.
I am the opposite. TFH sizing just doesn't work for me. -
@Omega:
I think Cold Summer re wrote all the English product info on THF's. He went to visit the people who actually made the clothes / jeans - all in the Flat Head thread in super denim if I recall correctly.
I am the opposite. TFH sizing just doesn't work for me.Yeah, to be clear, that's how it is for me too. TFH shirts are too short in the body and arms for me. Consistently. The shoulders and chest are cut great, but they're just too short. I like the IH approach better, but could totally see wanting a slimmer body version.
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^ Agree with the foregoing observations re TFH shirt cuts. I invariably have to upsize in order to get sufficient sleeve length, but then the shoulders are often too large.
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Flat Head workshirts are generally perfect on me (I have 7,all in size 42), except for the last one I bought, a black pin hickory from 2013ish, which seems quite a bit slimmer in the chest than the others.
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@Surf:
Yeah, to be clear, that's how it is for me too. TFH shirts are too short in the body and arms for me. Consistently. The shoulders and chest are cut great, but they're just too short. I like the IH approach better, but could totally see wanting a slimmer body version.
Completely agree, as much as I love the Iron Heart shirts, and would love to buy one, the sizing is just too big for me in the chest even in the westerns. I've yet to pick up a Flat Head shirt but the sizing on 36s definitely seems to be closer to my shape.
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I did work on translation/English stuff but my primary role was in sales, I took care of orders for places like Rivet and Hide, Pronto, and Self Edge.
I actually have some cool stuff on the way from Flat Head next week! A new pair of 20 oz. 2111 jeans and a beautiful new cordovan wallet I custom ordered.
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That wallet looks amazing, I would really like to see closeups when it arrives.
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You bet! These days I mostly carry around my wallet in my Voyej bag so I wanted something that was simple, classy, and which would have a slim profile in my bag. Although I won't be surprised if I end up using it in my back pocket some of the time.
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I hope those jeans fit you well Kyle. It's only right that a flat head fanatic like yourself gets a pair of flat heads that fit!
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@Cold Summer do you/have you done sales before? You have always read as very technically focused. Apologies for writing like I know you well. I've read years of your posts around the place (SuFu/reddit/here/etc)
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Based on the measurements I've seen on SE and elsewhere I think these should be a good fit. They look similar to my 3009s but with a slimmer top thigh and longer inseam (the only issues I really had with those jeans.) I've already kinda committed to wearing my new 3Sixteens for this year's jeans, but once they're broken in I'll be concentrating on the 2111s.
Flat Head's the only sales gig I've done, Snowy. You're right though, I'm actually getting ready to go to a three-month intensive programming school to make a career switch. Given my affinity for languages, detail-oriented stuff, and enjoyment of very concrete sorts of work, I think it's the right move.
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I think you'll excel at programming for sure! Up and coming language that all those I know are crazy about is Go. I write code in Python myself, but use it more of a means to an end, than a skilled and enjoyable developer. I do enjoy cranking out good code tho :). Best of luck, would love to hear from you in 6 months where you end up. Bet it'll be pretty amazing!
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I really like the iron studded bracelet at Self edge but the price kills it for me. I found the white version online for cheap. Will it darken? It looks a little feminine I guess and wanted opinions.
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I think it's pretty cool looking, but your right maybe a little feminine. I would bet you could get the beige leather to darken, but I don't think the white will.
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