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Yeah, it was pretty "full" cut. I was pretty aggressive with the soak, so I'll see if it shrank down a bit. The snow denim was insanely stiff when raw. Almost as stiff as the canvas CPO… almost
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^^nice pressies Appfaff - very jealous
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Thanks dude - been wanting the Topsiders and Tonkinoise for a while so I'm excited to have them. Just hoping they fit as well after a soak as they did before [emoji15]
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Ok I think you've all convinced me to give it a go with the wash/soak+dry. I'd obviously love to be able to machine wash it anyway so if it works that would be good. My only worry would be that the needed shrink in overall length and girth is incompatible with the available shrink in the arms (i.e. if I shrink to a good fit overall, the arms are too short, if I shrink only enough so that the arms are good the rest is too large).
I'm normally an XL in IH, but with their listed measurements pre/post soak, the XL would end up far too small in the chest.
Oh well, I guess that's the fun in experimenting, it's not like this thing was expensive or anything ;).
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@tvenuto - did you buy it through MF HQ? If so, you can swap out the sizes.
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Nope was a rakuten find. According to their XL pre/post measurements it would end up far too small for me in the chest, so I'll give this XXL a go. Wish me luck!
For reference, the raw measurements are:
P2P- 23.75
Shoulder- 20
Sleeve- 35 (from center back)
Length- 32.25 -
Good luck!
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Ok, so @Jordan23 requested some info on the Topsiders I recently got, so I wanted to go ahead and do a few write ups of the items I was able to snag since they are some of the "mystery" items not seen a lot on the forums.
First off, I think it goes without saying, but everyone can get down with the Sportsman items. They are easy to wear, timeless and pretty straight forward. However, when it comes to his true seasonal collections, you either Love it, or it's not your cup of tea. Like most MFSC items, I always liked these items but was never really sold on them. Except the Topsiders - I always wanted those. However, after seeing snips and pieces over the years, I figured I should at least own a few items that were different than what was being offered by other people (well, everyone has white jeans now, but not with a 14' rise haha).
Anyways… First Up, the Topsider Okinawa issue.
The website said a lot of shrink was available in these, and the post soak measures matched my Naval Chinos, which I consider my perfect vintage fit, so I went with the same size (36).
My measurements pretty much matched the website, with maybe 1/8-1/2 variance in rise, leg opening and inseam, but thighs and waist were the same as the webstore.
Pre-Soak Fit:
I followed the soaking instructions per MFSC and cold soaked for 30 minutes, spin and hang dry. I also hit it with a warm iron. My measures showed a little shrinkage but not like the website suggested. Im sure with a wash I will see more. My waist shrunk about .5 and thighs and inseam about .25. However, everything stretched back to pre-soak measures after 5 hours of wearing them.
Post Soak Fits:
Detail Pics:
Summary:
Overall, the denim is great. Kinda light, super slubby/neppy and pretty soft. I saw some color change in the whisker areas after only a few hours, although I never see much fading on these when I do see them online.The fit is exactly what I wanted. A re0imagined version of the shipyard chinos with a slightly lower rise and a longer inseam/smaller chino hem for rolling/cuffing.
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Next Up is the Lot 74 Jeans in wheat. I had my eyes set on the Malibu sand denim, but backed out and went with belt loops this time. My Speedway Pique are simply too big and I wanted an off-white denim option with a very small hem and beltloops. I also wanted to try out a higher rise fit, which I got haha, so a success on all fronts.
The denim is sanforised yet unwashed when new and very uniform when received. After a soak, the denim really comes to life. It's more khaki than white, although the color is hard to photograph. The leather patch and indigo pocket bags do transfer color, so if you are OCD, be aware.
The fit: I went with a 36 in these as well, and per the website, my measures were similar and I got very little shrinkage. Im sure they will be washed and dried alot, so i bet the measures will change often. I cold soaked with some aggitation, spin and hung dry. Light iron inside out.
Pre-soak fit:
Post Soak Fit:
Summary: The lot 74 is a very unique cut. High in the front, standard in the back roomy top block and a generous thigh with a strong taper. I liken it to a high rise 633. The material is great, although I know it marks easily, but "embrace the patina" as @davito says
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Finally, the Tonkinoise in Snow Denim.
this is a true anti-fit shirt, and I view it's cut more as an overshirt than a true button down. The fabric is crazy stiff and pretty heavy. I got zero shrink out of a cold soak/spin and hang dry and it's actually a little bigger than raw after a warm iron.
The cut and details are very similar to the new Libery issue CPO. Almost to the point where this one feels redundant to have. although it's denim instead of canvas, and not as long, although much roomier in the chest. I will warm wash it after a few weeks/months and see how it goes.
My measures (raw) were identical to the webshop, although I didn't get any shrinkage…yet
Pre-Soak Fit:
Post Soak Fit:
Details:
Summary: Cool shirt, lovely details, super clean construction. If you want more of a shirt, either get the Chambray version or the Garrison Shirt. If you want more of a jacket, get the map shirt or the CPO.If you want something that will work over a tshirt and can be work either way, this one is for you
I would not hesitate to size down on the Tonkinoise, but I wanted it as an overshirt. I love the button pockets and the cool collar. Overall very happy with it and will get alot of wear this spring since it should breathe much better than the canvas CPO.
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Well the CPO Liberty in small arrived, and it doesn't fit. The armholes are much too snug, the chest is too tight and the sleeve length is way long as is the body. Oh well.
Thanks everyone for the photo's and feedback, but this one is going back and in its place will be something of IH, FH or Studio D'artisan vintage.
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Sorry to hear that. Always find it interesting to hear people's thoughts and impressions of the same shirt. For me the arm holes are slightly higher than ideal, the chest a pinch slimmer than ideal and the arms right where I like them, although some would say too short.
@Appfaff the Tonkinoise looks great. Love mine as well. I think the collar shape and design is one of my favorite details on any shirt I own.
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The tonkinoise is definitely a cool
Shirt. I've worn mine mainly as a CPO style over flannels and open over Tshirts but the cuffs and placket are awesome. I liken it to the MFSC CPO without the tight fit. I'll probably see some liberty cuffs onto it at some point hahaSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Okinawa Topsiders
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Ok, so after wearing the Topsiders for a few days for the last two weeks, here is my current fit. They stretched a good amount on the first day but not much further stretch since then. I figure they went back to amount raw size.
I really enjoy wearing them as they are a fairly straight and comfortable fit without looking or feeling sloppy. I enjoy the higher rise so shirts stay tucked in and the top block has a clean silhouette and minimal hip flare.
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Topsiders look really good. In fact, I think they look better ok you than Christophe. I might have to check measurements to see of they would work for me
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So… I'll admit it. I have a "thing" for pants. I'd rather spend my money on jeans, Chinos, work pants and the kit over shirts. Weird, but I prefer wearing a different cut and materials everyday as opposed to the "wear your jeans everyday" idea...
Anyways, I've owned a lot of MFSC pants, and one think I've noticed is there is usually a theme in his cuts. Not saying they are all the same - a lot of times they are extremely different - however, I do believe Christophe builds on a cut and reincarnates it over multiple seasons to see how it can progress and perfect.
I truly feel the Topsiders are a denim version of the Shipyard Chino cut, which may be the ideal fit for me in every way. I also believe that the shipyard Chino was a derivative of the Riders Chino, which was a twill version of the rider dungaree, which to An extent, was a modified 7161...
With that being said, if any MFSC pant that follows his classic silhouette (even the sportsman Chino is loosely based on the Naval chino, which fits similarly to the shipyards) I think the fit would work out great for you.
Anyways, that was my conspiracy theory for the night lol [emoji23]
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