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[Giles]

Black warp/black weft…..

[JDelage]

Ah. Doh… Thanks.

[Paul9221]

@Giles:

Black warp/black weft…..

I would've figured black/blue.  So is black/black different from solid black?

[Giles]

If you mean is the 14oz black/black different from super black (which is reactive dyed warp and weft)?  Then yes it is different:

https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12963.msg607453#msg607453

[Paul9221]

Ah, gotcha!

[manufc10]

Also different from a black/white (black warp/white weft) fabric like the 21oz black/white fabric that's been discontinued…I think?  Which is unfortunate because I really liked that fabric.

[Giles]

Yes it is different.

[ROman]

Giles & I were discussing the relative similarity of the 888 and 1955 cut and how we may be better to tweak one of them to give a slightly more marked difference..

The 1955S is my all time favorite cut, and the 888 is a close second. Wearing them except for the higher rise, I really don't notice similarities. I hope the don't get tweaked too much. Each cut looks different on me, and both are great fitting. Just my thought.

[Dstauffer]

So are gonna see that incredible deer skin roughout western that H was wearing at the 10 year anniversary on this thread soon?

[kkibbey23]

@Dstauffer:

So are gonna see that incredible deer skin roughout western that H was wearing at the 10 year anniversary on this thread soon?

I hope so!

That was truly amazing

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[browniemcghee]

That I would try to buy.  Hoping to see a pic.

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[Giles]

We are working on getting the suede.  Once we manage that, all it easy (but expensive)…

[Chap]

@Giles:

We are working on getting the suede.  Once we manage that, all it easy (but expensive)…

There are still several tanneries in Austria making „Saemischleder“ of deer and roe hides. If you need addresses let me know.

[Chap]

@Chap:

@Giles:

We are working on getting the suede.  Once we manage that, all it easy (but expensive)…

There are still several tanneries in Austria making „Saemischleder“ of deer and roe hides. If you need addresses let me know.

As discussed in Gosport. These are traditional Austrian „Lederhosen“ made of deer skin like the shirt Haraki wore but black dyed in this case. Every stich is made by hand even the button holes.

[goosehd]

@Chap The lederhosen and boots are absolutely stunning!  Does the stitching pattern have any significance or are they general to the maker and area?

Thank you for sharing.

[Giles]

Brilliant.

Thank you.  I know the tannery that we got the leather for Harakis shirt from.  I have asked @rocket to get in touch with them for me.  I know from my last dealings with them, language was an issue….

[rocket]

still waiting for a reply….

[Chap]

@goosehd:

@Chap The lederhosen and boots are absolutely stunning!  Does the stitching pattern have any significance or are they general to the maker and area?

Thank you for sharing.

Cheers @goosehd yes the colour and pattern of the stitching refers to different areas. The stiching can be very time-consuming, it can take up to 120 h to make a pair. It can rise the price up to a small car for a pair. Waiting lists with the few makers are usually several years. The stiches don‘t go through the leather they run in the leather that‘s why they create a relief on the hide. A Lederhose can last for generations and are handed from father to son.

[Chap]

@rocket:

still waiting for a reply….

I would call them on the phone… usually these people aren‘t very firm with emails and Internet ‍️

[Giles]

@rocket:

still waiting for a reply….

Yep, that was my experience too