Naked & Famous
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the 32oz was only used for some sample pairs and AFAIK never intended to be used for regular production. the denim was woven on looms for carpets IIRC.
Besides IH and Samurai there are some other brands with heavy denim. Let's see what the 24oz denim from PBJ will be like
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You're right as almost always!
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come on, no one who begins with raw denim will buy a Samurai from the start. You need to infiltrate people with modern cuts and low prices, then a small chosen percentage will fall in love with dry denim and move on to higher quality. N&F seems to have attractive cuts for young people (like nudie), who would buy a 33 LVC when he's 20?
It's the same thing as with music - if I hadn't bought Smash by The Offspring back in 95 (?) I wouldn't have started to listen to punk. 2 Months later I listened to Suffer and so on.
No offense to anyone, but I don't like that sort of looking down on other brands. Hate on G-Star if you must hate.
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You mean fashionistas, hypefollowers…
and BTW my entry level raw denim was Sugar Canes.
No I mean young people
I wouldn't call somebody who discovers raw denim a fashionista, there are enough other ways to dress for them. If your first raw denim was Sugar Cane - great. But stores who sell this, don't grow on trees and we all don't want them to. So - it's perfect as it is. There are beginner's brands from which you can develop further, if you're passionate. I started with nudie as well and learnt by reading forums. What's wrong with that? -
nothing wrong reading forums and learning from there.
Your mention about more attractive cuts made me think fashionistas, not young people.
BUt I'm just an old stubborn geezer who'll nowadays break before bend.
and I've been so long out of fashion that I can remember. 
and opiniois are like a-holes, everybody's got one.Peace, bro
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No offense taken
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^ i started IH. go hard or go home lol
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how i always saw buying N&F (along with APC or Nudies) was like being at a good school (dry, premium, selvedge denim) and maintaining a B average. Why not do your homework and get the good grade denim?
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But you need to know the differences so you can fully appreciate them. For Example - nothing wrong, if your first whisky is The Black Bowmore or Macallan 30 YO Sherry Cask. But it's much more fun to learn the differences and evolve from, let's say, Bushmills. You know what I mean? At least, that's my opinion and experience
The only mistake you can do is to stick with average stuff, as is in everything (music, clothes, people, …), not to start with it.
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agree with you max power.
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@Max:
But you need to know the differences so you can fully appreciate them. For Example - nothing wrong, if your first whisky is The Black Bowmore or Macallan 30 YO Sherry Cask. But it's much more fun to learn the differences and evolve from, let's say, Bushmills. You know what I mean? At least, that's my opinion and experience
The only mistake you can do is to stick with average stuff, as is in everything (music, clothes, people, …), not to start with it.
i do get where you are coming from, and while i am not fully versed in whiskey (yet) i also see where you're going with this. but it really does not take too long, maybe a couple of weeks of casually looking online and a couple of in-store trips, to really get a good idea of what the most followed, loved, and admired brands are. Thats a reason why you always see iron heart, flat head, samurai, PBJ, and dior (they really did change the game with them cm cuts) CONSTANTLY on the first page of Sufu. not to say that perhaps it is a good idea to try your hand at less costly 'starter' jeans, just in case the dry denim philosophy isnt for you, but i see it as an unnecessary step.
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i never found naked and famous to be all that enticing as a brand, but i'm not gonna knock what other people dig. not everyone is going to pay $400 for a pair of jeans, and most people aren't like "us". Let em do their thing, we'll just look cooler.
