Runners
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@Crispy-Heron Depends a bit on budget and needs.
The newer watches all come now with AMOLED displays while the older ones still use MIP.
If you just want a pure running watch the forerunner 165 does the job. The 265 is quite a step up and supports multi sports etc. if you want to add mapping because you go hiking frequently you may want to look at the 965.
If you want a bit more robustness Fenix/Epix pro gen 2 are you best bets.
If you don’t want Garmin but an excellent watch for running, have a look at the Coros Pace 3. -
@goosehd @Dmart - thanks. I don’t really have a budget but would ideally want an Apple Watch for the reasons you have set out - make calls, listen to podcasts/music and (importantly) not having to lug my iPhone Pro Max around. That said I think that the Garmin 165 looks like it could do the job although that means lugging the phone around. If I go Garmin I will need to invest in some shorts as well to carry the phone around in. Most products have pockets not big enough for the Pro Max.
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i use coros pace 3 and really enjoy it
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Carrying a phone in shorts on a run is always a bummer. Carrying a phone works better with a waist belt like the ones Salomon, Arcteryx, or Satisfy makes.
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I gotta take my phone with me every time. Too many close calls with poop to leave it at home and risk not being able to call my wife to pick me up and bring a towel. But like Nik, I leave it in the running belt
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I like my Fenix 7X sapphire solar. Used to have a 965 but doing longer distances now and still charmed by mips screens.
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@Crispy-Heron there are a few it depends on what you want your watch to do if you are looking for split and total time and heart rate you can go with a Forerunner 265 if you want a more budget-friendly you can try the Forerunner 55.
If you do trail running or endurance you might want to go for 7X Pro Sapphire Solar (crazy battery life due to solar charging and awesome topo maps and navigation)
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@Crispy-Heron also you can always go with the Apple Watch Ultra I have the series 1 ultra and it is amazing the 2 has more nits on the screen and a few other bells
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My only, but biggest gripe with the Apple watch is that it will not read/work with my tattoos. I have full tattoo sleeves that stop just above the wrist. It will not work where my watch tends to sit normally and to get around it, I have to wear the watch lower on my wrist which is quite uncomfortable for long periods.
I don't know if Garmin is any better, but I will not be buying another Apple smartwatch because of it.
"I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)
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@goosehd This is an ongoing issue, and actually it is not only those with tattoos, but also people with darker skin can have issues with optical heart rate monitors. Many use a chest strap for workouts. I do even though I'm white without wrist tattoos, for workouts where I want reliable HR data the chest strap is just much more accurate.
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@Nik I have my chest strap but haven't used it for running and may do that this weekend. Thank you!
Does it provide any of the VO2, oxygen, etc.?
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@goosehd I should have been more clear: connect the chest strap to the watch so that the watch reads HR from the strap rather than the optical sensor. The watch will use that to compute VO2.
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@Nik Thank you! Just finished a quick 6 km and will do that for tomorrow's run. Also wanted to thank you for your previous suggestions on training programs, etc. I completely understand what you guys mean by junk miles now.
Training with a purpose and goals make's everything much more efficient (albeit more painful on some days).
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Random question for you guys: What is your average SPM (Steps Per Minute)? I'm currently around 165 and trying to get up to 170. Doing high knees and other related exercises to pick up a little more speed, but wonder where you guys are at.
"I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)
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Current thinking seems to be that heel striking is ok. The barefoot running trend and forefoot strike trend was replaced by two things, one, high stack super shoes where it works to heel strike and two, people being more open to different running form for different bodies.
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