In Fitness and in Health
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Shane, you and I are about the same body composition, or were when we started. What helped me was using a food log app on my phone. I no longer use it because I've gotten a better grasp but I was using myfitnesspal. You can also track exercise on there as well and link to other apps such as mapmyfitness which is looks like you are using based on the photo above
Knowing what I put into my body was the most important for me
Backed hard, MyFitnessPal is an awesome way to track food. It's not as good at tracking exercise but you can at least put your calorie burn in there, and exercise isn't as important for losing fat anyway as diet.
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Kettlebell workouts will actually cover both of those
Whatever you do, make sure you enjoy it and can stick to it. That is more important than anything
I fully back both of these statements. I also endorse using a calorie tracker on your phone. I've used both Lose It! and Myfitnesspal. I like the interface on Lose It! better, but myfitnesspal has a much more comprehensive food/nutrition encyclopedia.
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Shane, you and I are about the same body composition, or were when we started. What helped me was using a food log app on my phone. I no longer use it because I've gotten a better grasp but I was using myfitnesspal. You can also track exercise on there as well and link to other apps such as mapmyfitness which is looks like you are using based on the photo above
Knowing what I put into my body was the most important for me
Thanks for all the input guys. I started using the Lose It! app two months ago. I used it a lot at first but then it trailed off. I've now being using it every day for the last two weeks. I love how you can just scan the barcode of anything and it has the nutritional value right there. Also, being able to log my exercise and get a general idea of how many calories I can burn really helps motivate me. I also downloaded MapMyRun to track my running which is pretty nice.
I'm going to be in Toronto for the next two weeks so that will be a challenge. I don't have a gym there but I can workout in the garage and run everyday in the park. I'll probably try Tabata while I'm there. I've tried P90x before but I was too out of shape to finish most of it.
What specific foods should I be eating? Are there certain superfoods that you recommend? I've mostly been eating goji berries, chia seeds, walnuts, high protein yogurt, salad, fish, blackberries, carrots, pomegranate, apples, bananas, and protein shakes the last two weeks. I won't be changing my diet to something like Paleo or anything, just because I want this to be a life long thing. But breads, sugars, sodas, chips, fried foods, are starting to become a less than once a week treat. y main problem with diet is late night snacking. I work and stay up late, like 3-5am, almost every night. So about 3-4hrs after dinner I start wanting something to eat and the last thing I want are veggies. So that's been the main struggle so far.
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i like to snag nuts (almonds, brazil, walnuts) and maybe some greek yogurt to go along with.
add cinnamon and maybe some stamina and you're good to go. high protein and good fats that should keep your body nourish (?) until the next morning.
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I'm trying bodyrecomposition's crash diet. Maintenance protein, as many non starchy veggies as you want, and huge calorie deficits. Fish oil daily
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This crash diet accounts for that, but agreed in general.
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Shane, you and I are about the same body composition, or were when we started. What helped me was using a food log app on my phone. I no longer use it because I've gotten a better grasp but I was using myfitnesspal. You can also track exercise on there as well and link to other apps such as mapmyfitness which is looks like you are using based on the photo above
Knowing what I put into my body was the most important for me
Thanks for all the input guys. I started using the Lose It! app two months ago. I used it a lot at first but then it trailed off. I've now being using it every day for the last two weeks. I love how you can just scan the barcode of anything and it has the nutritional value right there. Also, being able to log my exercise and get a general idea of how many calories I can burn really helps motivate me. I also downloaded MapMyRun to track my running which is pretty nice.
I'm going to be in Toronto for the next two weeks so that will be a challenge. I don't have a gym there but I can workout in the garage and run everyday in the park. I'll probably try Tabata while I'm there. I've tried P90x before but I was too out of shape to finish most of it.
What specific foods should I be eating? Are there certain superfoods that you recommend? I've mostly been eating goji berries, chia seeds, walnuts, high protein yogurt, salad, fish, blackberries, carrots, pomegranate, apples, bananas, and protein shakes the last two weeks. I won't be changing my diet to something like Paleo or anything, just because I want this to be a life long thing. But breads, sugars, sodas, chips, fried foods, are starting to become a less than once a week treat. y main problem with diet is late night snacking. I work and stay up late, like 3-5am, almost every night. So about 3-4hrs after dinner I start wanting something to eat and the last thing I want are veggies. So that's been the main struggle so far.
Protein, protein, protein. Nuts, Greek yogurt, jerky, protein shakes (the pre made ones are much better tasting than powder, albeit higher in sugar)
Eat something about every 3 hours so you never binge. That's my strategy
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What specific foods should I be eating? Are there certain superfoods that you recommend? I've mostly been eating goji berries, chia seeds, walnuts, high protein yogurt, salad, fish, blackberries, carrots, pomegranate, apples, bananas, and protein shakes the last two weeks.
Watch the fruit and even carrots. Yes they are good for you but high in sugars. Berries are better.
Get lots of broccoli. Such a good veggie. Chicken breasts are a good lean meat also.
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Haha… so much conflicting advice, it's a hard question to get an answer to, and I'm about to make it worse. I'm going to go against Bags and say you shouldn't load up on protein. You probably don't need much more than 1 gram per pound of bodyweight even doing cardio, maybe a little more when you're trying to put on some lean body mass, and under almost no circumstances should it be over 2g/lb. Excess protein, just like excess fats and excess carbs, get stored as fat (or pooped out).
And even though sweet potatoes are good for you, I don't think they are a good recommendation when you are trying to lose weight, as they are very starchy. Carbs are the enemy, they READILY convert into fat and can trigger hormonal responses that will keep you hungry. If you are focusing on putting muscle on, a sweet potato can be a good carb, but not IMO if you are trying to lose weight. I wholly agree with berries if you're going to eat carbs, and broccoli, and skinless chicken breast. I don't think you need more than a handful or two of berries a day for your carb load.
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Thanks guys. Yeah, there's a lot of info out there. I've been following reddit.com/r/Fitness/ which seems to have a lot of useful information in the sidebar.
This was a good read
http://liamrosen.com/fitness.htmlGood resources
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Excess protein, just like excess fats and excess carbs, get stored as fat (or pooped out).
I don't know if there has been any further research done on it, but when Atkins first became popular, there were also warnings that protein taken in excess can potentially overstress the kidneys
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@mclaincausey
i would even say that your theory isn't quite right (at least for what i've experienced).5-6years ago i was in the best shape of my life, if i may do say so. i've worked out 3times a week, did cardio on my days off and used to eat after a certain meal plan for quite a long time (500-600kcal less than needed per day).
gym:
worked out my whole body each time i went. 10 different exercises inkl. warm up and cool down, so that'd be 8 different muscle exercises.cardio:
30min. of riding my bike or running.meal plan: (waking up around 6am)
after waking up: protein shake (30g protein + water)
30-45min. later breakfast: protein shake (30g protein + 250ml 0.3% milk), 2 slices of whole grain bread + 30g peanut butter + 5g fish oil (omega 3)
2-3h later: protein shake (with water) + good fats (2tbsp. linseed oil)
2-3h later: tuna (in its own juice) + a handful of brazil nuts, a apple and a slice of whole grain bread
2-3h later lunch: 250g chicken breast + broccoli + 50g rice (iirc) + 5g fish oil (omega 3)
2-3h later: protein shake (with water) + good fats (2tbsp. linseed oil)
2-3h later: 250g chicken breast + broccoli
just before going to bed: protein shake (with water) + good fats (2tbsp. linseed oil) or other high protein meals such as an omelette, scrambled eggs with mushrooms or greek yoghurt with linseed oil and etc. …i think you get the deal!
one just has to make sure to mix the right things together. always go protein+fat or protein+carbs.
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It's not my theory. Eating more protein than you need it either goes to fat or gets shit out. 4 calories per gram.
Agreed on fat plus carbs.
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It's not my theory. Eating more protein than you need it either goes to fat or gets shit out.
Agreed on fat plus carbs.
should have said it differently…but i think you know what i mean
and yeah, it's the same with everything else. too much of something good can be bad as well, we all agree on that.
in the end, one really has to find out what works best for "you" and your body. there are way too many ways and forms out there one can try, so it might take a little longer to find the "right" way of living/eating. -
Agreed. I think your objectives and maybe your activity level were different than Shane's. If weight loss and not bulking up is the goal, I'd keep it under 2g/lb personally and focus on cutting carbs.
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cutting carbs is always a good thing to do when you want to lose weight.
i for myself though, i don't step on scales…the mirror is my scale. if i'm not satisfied with what i see, i know i have to do something again or a bit more again. scale just shows numbers which don't reflect the real you.
also i think that that whole bmi thing is fecked. it doesn't represent anything good...so i wouldn't listen to that at all! -
The trouble I have with diet is that there's a lot of unsupported opinion that's bandied around as scientific fact. From what I can gather:
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There doesn't appear to be any evidence in favour of low fat or low carb diets being superior in weight loss. Despite eating carbs, I'm down about 25 lbs this year.
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Total calories do matter.
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Meal timing and frequency doesn't make any real difference.
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Protein requirements for a novice strength athlete are about 1.7 or 1.8 grams per kilogram, a little under the 1 gram per pound figure that's banded around. Experienced or advanced athletes need less, around 1.2 grams per kilogram.
If you're interested in things with supportive research, then there's the Portfolio diet, which is effective against cholesterol; the DASH diet, which is for high blood pressure; and the Diogenes study, which was a European study into sustainable approaches to weight control.
I'm not entirely unconvinced by BMI in my old age. There have been a few studies that suggest the upper limit of lean mass in a drug free trainer is an adjusted FFMI (fat free mass index) of 25. That's calculated by working out the BMI without any bodyfat, and then applying a height normalisation factor to it.
For someone of my height (6'3" / 1.9 metres), that would work out as a limit of around 88 kg, and possibly less. So getting into the obese category would mean I'd be carrying at least 20% bodyfat, which is a bit more than is strictly healthy.
OK, if you're living on a diet of steroids then you can surpass that. But I remain to be convinced that's a healthy lifestyle choice.
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