@Jordanxbuffer:

@neph93:

No hate, honest observations are welcome. Thing is, different cuts work in different ways on different bodies and not everyone can wear every cut. Personally, i love the top block on the 666 and 634, but the straight leg isn’t the best for my (ahem) chunkiness. The taper on the 555 is brilliant, but the top block tends to be a bit ragged. I haven’t even tried the 777 because I’m fairly sure my afrobutt won’t get on with the low rise. The 888 is good for me though.

I’ve tried the 888 in the 21oz and have the UHR inbound. My thinking is, you can definitely size down as the high rise means the waistband hits at a slimmer part of the torso (on many).

This. I went with a 36 only because of my thunder thighs and booty. If not for them I could have EASILY sized down to 35.

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Yeah i have a bigger pair incoming in order to fit my thighs. they are long, too, so i kind of need a bigger knee. Love my 1955s, though.

@mpukas:

Overall, at the moment, I'm not as stoked as most fella's here are. I think these 34's are a size too big in the waist and top block, but the thighs down are good. But if I had gone with a 33 I'd have thighs on the tight side. I'm fearful that once the denim stretches out and relaxes, I'm gonna have saggy crotch and diaper butt due to the high rise. I'll give them another hot wash soon to get any remaining shrink out, but I don't expect much more. When I get them hemmed 1" shorter I'll probably feel better about them.

We are in the same boat. My 33s are pretty restrictive in the thighs, and i'm planning to hit the weights this winter. With tight thighs it definitely seems to put a lot of tension on the crotch. Debating trying some 34s an managing with a looser waist.

For those of you that have been wearing these for a few days now…. hows the stretch? Anybody getting anything past original measurements?

@Giles:

The last few left after pre-orders have been sorted out are now live….....

Sent Ivan an email RE: possible sz 34 purchase if we can find one with a bigger knee/lower thigh.

So I assume very little stretch, if any, after breaking in for the knee/low thigh area?

After soaking my internal struggles remained RE: these. Got about 1.2in out of the inseam via my soak and brief wash, so probably a little shrink left still and the lower thigh area is very tight. Figured if its this tight now, any stretch will be canceled out with the remaining shrink. did a 1.5hr room temp soak and about 15-20min of agitation.

Could move up to a 34 and get the waist taken in but it doesn't even look like much of an increase (just 0.1in). In the mirror they pretty much look perfect, but they just feel uncomfortable/constraining. Doesn't take much knee spreading for the crotch to get really tight [11 and 1 on a clock], when i sit the back rise comes down a little because there isn't any give for the pants to pull from the lower half and when i try to pull them all the way up like Steve Urkel the thigh/knee stops them. Any lifting i do will potentially make these unwearable.

Denim is beautiful though… really want to convince myself to try and break them in but that's an expensive break-in if never really enjoy wearing them. Here's an album and the first pic is a pair of my 1955s. they pretty much fit perfectly, with some room for reduction in the knee. Had the waist reduced by an inch, but should've gone more given it still still has some decent give. https://imgur.com/a/uMWNv

Ya'll are just rocking the slightly relaxed look with good amounts of room it seems and i'm just not feeling how these are sitting on me. And yeah... mirror is dusty in the pics ::).

Definitely working with a slimmer fit but let's see how these break in. Size up and the waist would be too large, which admittedly isn't a bad thing.

https://imgur.com/a/gcokE

Presoak pics… not sure how much room in the thigh/lower thigh i'll have after the soak/wash. top block is fine though.

Excuse the noob but is it advised to let the denim dry between the initial soak and wash?

@neph93:

I'm a touch confused by some of the discussion around thigh measurements and style. The original plan for these was based on the 634, but with a higher rise and taper. That is to say a tapered regular cut. That is what this is. It is in no way a slim cut.

The published target measurements were originally a bit bigger in the thigh, admittedly, but the end product is only marginally smaller than those and the thigh on the 888S is on a par with the thigh on the 634S. Personally I wouldn't want anything with a larger thigh than the 634 so I'm happy. If future iterations come up larger then that's ok with me too as I can definitely do a size down in these if I need to.

Either way the thigh isn't slim, but if any of you are put off by the measurements get in touch with the crew, There tends to be some variation and they might find one that works for you.

The thigh isn't slim, but it isn't exactly roomy. As it has been mentioned, the people who don't need higher back rise/larger top block/larger thighs have access to multitudes more denim models and designs than the people who do. We aren't angry at anyone at the result of the dimensions being smaller, we're just disappointed after getting super excited about the target measurements. The 634 doesn't necessarily have a roomy thigh, either. That characteristic belongs to the 1955s, which aside from a slightly-too-high front rise and maybe a smidge too big leg opening, has great measurements for the big bottom crew.

Hoping this model comes out closer to the original measurements. Tried on the 888S @ Mildblend and wound up with slightly snug thighs with a slightly loose waist.