@stitchdown-shell was great to work with as a buyer. E-transfer payment was smooth as well (for the Canadians on the forum!)

That's basically it - I have a relatively narrow waist but large thighs. That, and I don't think high-rise denim works for me as I have a shorter torso so it makes me look disproportionate. My challenge is that I need to size for my thighs, and if the waist becomes too large then my jeans sit on my hips instead, which might end up producing diaper butt so I prefer lower-rise where possible. I was hoping the 633's mid-rise is a good middle ground.

Here are some images I took. Waist is comfortable and if anything, just ever so lightly loose now that I've been trying it on a bit (hoping it won't be an issue if I always wear with a belt). The red arrows point to the part of my thigh where it's difficult to pinch any material when standing. It ispossible, but I'm only able to grab a small amount of fabric. I'm able to sit down on a chair without feeling any discomfort.

@Paul9221 you read my mind! I've been sitting at home with the jeans, reading everyone's comments, and thinking about what feels right to me. Thank you everyone for sharing your feedback with me.

I think my best fitting pair I have at home currently is a pair of Uniqlo's Kaihara denim. The measurements (IH way) are as follows:
Waist = 32"
Front Rise: 10.25"
Back Rise = 15.6"
Thigh = 12.5"
Knee @13" = 8.5"
Hem = 7.25"

I attached fit pics of my Uniqlo pair.

The 633S from SelfEdge have the following measurements currently after wearing them at home here and there, sitting around, etc for a few days:
Tag Size 31
Waist = 33.5" (note, listed size chart on SE's website says 31.5" but they don't measure the IH-way; my guess is IH-way measurement would've been 32-32.5" originally)
Front rise = 10.25"
Back rise = 14.6"
Thigh = 12.25"
Knee@13" = 8.6"
Hem =7.5"

The 633S is admittedly a little loose on the waist right now, but they're held up in place with my glutes. I aimed for a larger waist measurement than my Uniqlo pair as I need to size for my thighs, but also because the Uniqlo pair was a touch uncomfortable when sitting down at the waist button. Funny enough, despite the larger waist measurement of the Iron Hearts, they're still a touch tight when sitting down at the waist button, but I think I'm learning that this is actually due to the pair being slimmer overall in the glutes area.

I think if I sized down on the 633S the thighs would be too tight. I think the 888 cut in size 31 might be the best alternative from Iron Heart but I'm a bit worried they might stretch out too much; I've previously worn a couple pairs of Tanuki high tapered denim and they all end up sitting closer to my hips and sagging creating a diaper butt effect.

Currently, I'm leaning towards keeping the 633S and just seeing how things go as they do feel comfortable sitting around at home, even if they are slightly slimmer in the thigh to knee area. I am wondering if I am making a mistake and if the waist will keep stretching and stretching.

@stitchdown-shell was great to work with as a buyer. E-transfer payment was smooth as well (for the Canadians on the forum!)

@JoshC Thanks Josh. I do recall this being mentioned in the F/W24 release video but thought it was interesting that IH Japan and IHUK chose different versions for their markets. The work shirt cut works for me so I'm happy, and I think the new buttons for the work flannels are an amazing upgrade!

I was in Japan recently and was surprised to see that this flannel was available in a work shirt there (but not western!). Ended up picking it up. Really like this colourway

@flannel-slut I purchased two shirts from them and am super happy with them! They were exactly as described and in great condition. I really appreciated the quick shipping and the product was packaged carefully upon receipt.

@endo

Anybody know if Chris Hemsworth is wearing the olive or khaki N-1?

Hi everyone,

Thanks again for the input. I've decided to return the 633s! I was able to try a pair of 888s locally (though not in the 21oz that I wanted) and the waist was snug but I could still get the top button done. I think the thigh to knee area should be good if I get the 21oz as well (the 14oz overdye I tried seemed a tad tighter on the legs, but this makes sense to me since the knee measurement is a bit smaller per IHUK website vs 21oz. The 14oz fabric may just be more rigid as well). The butt area on the pair I tried on seemed a touch on the slim side as well but perhaps it'll work out with a bit of wear, especially if I get the 21oz indigo fabric.

@Paul9221 you read my mind! I've been sitting at home with the jeans, reading everyone's comments, and thinking about what feels right to me. Thank you everyone for sharing your feedback with me.

I think my best fitting pair I have at home currently is a pair of Uniqlo's Kaihara denim. The measurements (IH way) are as follows:
Waist = 32"
Front Rise: 10.25"
Back Rise = 15.6"
Thigh = 12.5"
Knee @13" = 8.5"
Hem = 7.25"

I attached fit pics of my Uniqlo pair.

The 633S from SelfEdge have the following measurements currently after wearing them at home here and there, sitting around, etc for a few days:
Tag Size 31
Waist = 33.5" (note, listed size chart on SE's website says 31.5" but they don't measure the IH-way; my guess is IH-way measurement would've been 32-32.5" originally)
Front rise = 10.25"
Back rise = 14.6"
Thigh = 12.25"
Knee@13" = 8.6"
Hem =7.5"

The 633S is admittedly a little loose on the waist right now, but they're held up in place with my glutes. I aimed for a larger waist measurement than my Uniqlo pair as I need to size for my thighs, but also because the Uniqlo pair was a touch uncomfortable when sitting down at the waist button. Funny enough, despite the larger waist measurement of the Iron Hearts, they're still a touch tight when sitting down at the waist button, but I think I'm learning that this is actually due to the pair being slimmer overall in the glutes area.

I think if I sized down on the 633S the thighs would be too tight. I think the 888 cut in size 31 might be the best alternative from Iron Heart but I'm a bit worried they might stretch out too much; I've previously worn a couple pairs of Tanuki high tapered denim and they all end up sitting closer to my hips and sagging creating a diaper butt effect.

Currently, I'm leaning towards keeping the 633S and just seeing how things go as they do feel comfortable sitting around at home, even if they are slightly slimmer in the thigh to knee area. I am wondering if I am making a mistake and if the waist will keep stretching and stretching.

Thanks everyone for the input! Now I'm worried about the waist and the thighs, haha!

The waist is indeed quite comfortable right now and I understand the 21oz denim might continue to stretch. Would this be prevented as I normally always wear a belt with the denim? I'm just a bit confused with sizing as I've previously taken advice to size down the waist, only to have the denim not stretch as much as I would've liked, and I'm seeing advice online that it's generally better to make sure the denim is comfortable right from the get-go. I'm sure with all sorts of fabrics, weights, loose/dense weaves, it's all a bit "your mileage may vary"...

Some local shops carry the 634S, which I believe the 633S is more or less the same from waist to knee, so I'll see how a size down might go. I'm just concerned that sizing down might result in the thigh to knee area being too tight.

I'll also check out the 888S but I'm not convinced the high rise will work for me..

That's basically it - I have a relatively narrow waist but large thighs. That, and I don't think high-rise denim works for me as I have a shorter torso so it makes me look disproportionate. My challenge is that I need to size for my thighs, and if the waist becomes too large then my jeans sit on my hips instead, which might end up producing diaper butt so I prefer lower-rise where possible. I was hoping the 633's mid-rise is a good middle ground.

Here are some images I took. Waist is comfortable and if anything, just ever so lightly loose now that I've been trying it on a bit (hoping it won't be an issue if I always wear with a belt). The red arrows point to the part of my thigh where it's difficult to pinch any material when standing. It ispossible, but I'm only able to grab a small amount of fabric. I'm able to sit down on a chair without feeling any discomfort.

Hello! New to the forum and hoping that it's okay to ask a question about denim stretching (I can't seem to find a way to search within threads..)

I recently bought a pair of the 633S-21oz and they are just right in the waist (not too tight), but I'm concerned that the thigh doesn't have enough room. In particular, I'm barely able to grab excess fabric at the mid-thigh area (halfway between the bottom of my pelvis and my knees). This area doesn't feel constricting (ie. I can sit or squat down reasonably comfortably; I'm guessing this is because of the 21oz denim's loose weave?) but I'm worried that if I gain any extra weight, it'll become too tight. Does this area stretch at all?

On a side note, does anyone know how the 14oz denim stretches in the thigh compared to the 21oz?