Ah ok. in Achee's post he had called it brown dress, so I was quite confused.

for my custom BH im going with brown dress for the toe and heel, Ive been trying to find any good pictures of a pair of white's in black bison, because ive been thinking of having that on the shaft of the boot. i thought about doing the shaft in brown bison, but i think having brown bison and brown dress together like that might not look too great.

any opinions on my build or pictures of black bison?

Hi everybody, Im new to White's boots and all the differences between leathers, lasts, midsoles, outsoles, etc. So, I've read over the whites thread here, at superfuture, and at styleforum, so I could try to gather as much info as possible without asking all the same questions that have been asked a thousand times already.
Ive got a build almost finalized for a durable, work worthy, yet good looking  8" bounty hunter. my question is:

^^^^ Ive always thought this was what brown dress leather looked like; essentially black but lightening with use.

^^^^^^yet Achee posted this pic of his new pair of brown dress SD's and they seem a far cry from the brown dress that ive seen in every other picture.

Does brown dress vary by that much? am I mistaken that these are both brown dress?

thanks in advance, you guys have supplied a great deal of knowledge and pictures to people like me wanting a custom pair of White's, but not knowing where to even begin.