but leave it and come back to what we interested all here : Iron Heart  ::)

he volcano I'm not stupid  I know their measurements methods as well as those of the other shops on lines.
to return to my previous posts, it was in order to help future buyers nothing more, for me I already have all the information.

yes Thomas this's exactly what I'm looking for, which concern me personally, Giles and others given me complete information for my futur purchase : 634s

I understand volcano thanks

yes i have read the advice abd i thank you
I thought everyone and only new jeans, look at Self Edge, DC4, Iron Heart, Ratuken etc… and you will see you same that no measures is identical.
There isn't all fortunate to have a shops that sells  Iron Heart on her city and I am sure that this help many new purchasers of this great brand

Hi
I have a sugestion that was to be made, why not tell your jeans (new or already wear ) all measures ( not taken from a site but really by you ) I'm sure it will help much everyone who wants  to buy and then as each model is unique this will range differences.

I wore my first jeans at the age of 13 years, it was a 501 Levis STF, so straight, I'm not a fan of so-called cuts taper or slim and without going to an old fart I remains attached to this type of jeans

it's i think  just selvedge !!!

I don't  want to argue about the pros and cons of washing but does not believe that I never wash my jeans, I do that when I feel it's the right time.
I think I misspoke, English is not my native language, I prefer straight cuts, but I buy them smaller than my real size ( downsize 1 )

Yess !!! a great finish with Iron Heart !!!