Thanks for your input guys! Luckily its not like I have to cramp up my toes in the red wings, its more like an irritating feeling that they dont fit properly, which could be the case of course. Think I'll give the Mr. Lou's a shot once the next paycheck hits.

Hey everyone, new member here. I was wondering if someone can comment on the heel slip in this model? I own a pair of red wing 2268 engineer boots in 7, which is my usual size in iron rangers too. The overall fit is good, but the heel slip is extreme and keeps me from wearing then more often. Also they're very roomy around the calf. The description of the Mr. Lou's sounds like they are the exact opposite. I'm just wondering if the red wings just don't fit me good or I might just not be an engineer boot guy at all.