All Things Mac/ Apple
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Since I usually hang on to mine more than a year, sometimes even longer if im happy with how things are running–--I will wait to hear more info from the people who will review theirs as they receive them.
Have to agree though--the max might be super nice.i've gone from a normal size iphone to their plus and finally back down to the normal sized 11pro. actually got very used to the sizes of the X and 11pro. can't imagine going back bigger again…
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My life just got so much easier lol [emoji23]
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So what do people think of the new Macs with the ARM-based Apple M1 CPU?
I don't know what software support is going to be like on the new chips in the short term. Apple has played the transition close to its chest, as they're prone to secrecy, so that's given developers less time to prepare.
My main programs (outside of browsers) are Office and Android Studio. I believe that Microsoft have ported the former, but Jetbrains and Google haven't released a version of the latter.
Overall, they look interesting machines. I'm tempted by one, particularly as I desperately need to upgrade my laptop. (I've got a six year old Surface Pro!)
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@goosehd a friend always tells me, "Never buy version 1.0 of anything!"
A lot depends on how far advanced software vendors are with the migration. I think that Microsoft and Adobe had early access, as they were showing off versions of their apps at the initial announcement, but the second tier might suffer.
The other thing is that Apple haven't taken advantage of the form factors that the ARM chips will allow. I believe that the new MacBooks reuse the old chassis from the Intel models. But if you look at a Surface Pro X versus a regular Surface, or Samsung Galaxy Book S versus anything else, they're incredibly skinny. The rumour I heard is that the next generation of devices will be a lot more radical.
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The state of play for ARM comparability.
All the apps and games Apple promises for Arm-based Macs
I'm surprised that Apple didn't publicise the fact that they're shifting architecture sooner. Or maybe Adobe, Microsoft, etc were given a heads up.
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they did announce they were shifting architecture way back in june when they announced all the new OS for the year.. Big Sur, iOS14 etc. they did mention that the full transition from intel to apple silicon will take place in a span of about 2 years. they also released their developer kit in june this year where app developers were able to code and redesign apps to suit this new OS and chip set.
overall, i'm not convinced until i see the full line up of products from the base to top end variants. the upside to ARM architecture for them lies in the native software being designed and developed for their chipset which allows it to be more efficient and possible more powerful, compared to those that run ARM hardware with an external OS. the downside is that now it has a greater control of price in regards to upgrade since most of the processing unit is not modifiable. i think it'll be interesting to look forward to the iMacs/desktops that will be eventually be released with their ARM chips to see where their full potential lies since it doesn't have to factor in efficiency cores like their laptops
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I don't know how complicated the migration from ARM to Intel is, but given the lack of compatible apps, I suspect that it isn't trivial. Software development is a slow process.
I think that the ARM chips have a lot of potential, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to get one now. Which means that I'll probably end up buying one next week!
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i think it will be a good idea to wait until at least next year @Graeme
the current model are just base models. i'm sure you'll be better off with a higher end model and chip given your particular set of skills. most apps currently are being built to handle intel and apple silicon, i believe. it'll be at least 5-8 years from now before they phase out the intel macs so there's still a need for backward compatibility and support for intel until then..
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@Graeme @louisbosco As I mentioned, my wife and I purchased a new laptop from Apple yesterday with the Intel chip. Our hopes are to give everyone a chance to make their software more compatible with Apple’s new chip and as Graeme mentioned to allow apple to work on the chassis to maximize the use of it.
One thing to note: In Canada, there is a decent price savings between two similar builds by purchasing the proprietary chip made by them over the Intel chip.
At this time, I just don’t think that the savings are worth it. My $.02.
Good luck.
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@goosehd that's a wise decision. i wouldn't recommend the apple silicon models just yet, even if they're supposedly more powerful than the higher end intel 16"
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From the architecture perspective, sharing the Memory bus amongst all the subsystems is a very good way to achieve performance optimisations.
I can see why they would have been frustrated with Intel. They are expensive, and they have not innovated enough in many areas.
The fact that they were able to release a fan-less Air speaks volumes about how inefficient Intel architecture is in terms of power being wasted.
What I am curious about now is what they can do in terms of performance for more of a Workstation application, where battery life is irrelevant, (iMac, iMac Pro, Mac Pro) as the ARM Architecture was originally predominantly designed for low power usage, rather than out and out performance; in fact, when it was first designed and tested, it ran without the power supply working…
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From the architecture perspective, sharing the Memory bus amongst all the subsystems is a very good way to achieve performance optimisations.
only if the OS is co-developed as a native system, which in this case, it is. many ARM laptops out there aren't able to achieve maximum performance and efficiency because they're using a windows OS which isn't developed and coded natively..
What I am curious about now is what they can do in terms of performance for more of a Workstation application, where battery life is irrelevant, (iMac, iMac Pro, Mac Pro) as the ARM Architecture was originally predominantly designed for low power usage, rather than out and out performance; in fact, when it was first designed and tested, it ran without the power supply working…
Same here. Everything introduced recently is only at the base level. I'm curious to see the further upgrades the MacBook Pro line gets with its 15/16" models, not to mention the higher end iMacs too..
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Since I usually hang on to mine more than a year, sometimes even longer if im happy with how things are running–--I will wait to hear more info from the people who will review theirs as they receive them.
Have to agree though--the max might be super nice.@dinobarnesberlin I've just got my iPhone 12 pro max today. had to wait till late night to test out the new upgrades to the camera. One thing I'm very impressed with is the low light photos, in portrait mode. The sensor shift technology (whereby the senor moves to accomodate movement from your hands, rather than the lens moving) in the pro MAX is the key feature that sets it apart from the normal 12 pro. so, if you take a lot of photos at night, this is extremely helpful. but also be aware that the MAX is huge, like proper massive in terms of actual feeling.
Taken in portrait without night mode because of 2.5x zoom
Portrait but with night mode 1x zoom
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Since I usually hang on to mine more than a year, sometimes even longer if im happy with how things are running–--I will wait to hear more info from the people who will review theirs as they receive them.
Have to agree though--the max might be super nice.@dinobarnesberlin I've just got my iPhone 12 pro max today. had to wait till late night to test out the new upgrades to the camera. One thing I'm very impressed with is the low light photos, in portrait mode. The sensor shift technology (whereby the senor moves to accomodate movement from your hands, rather than the lens moving) in the pro MAX is the key feature that sets it apart from the normal 12 pro. so, if you take a lot of photos at night, this is extremely helpful. but also be aware that the MAX is huge, like proper massive in terms of actual feeling.
Niiice @louisbosco!!! im still waiting for it to get to my local stores so that I can hold it in my hand to check out how it will feel, by all accounts it is a total brick–but I think its what I want. Ive been reading the reviews, watching the videos and yea--night mode looks fantastic. Better than the 12 pro, but not by much.
The 11pro max prices have really dropped, but hey--I want the latest and the greatest.
What memory size did you go with?
im thinking that 128gb will be fine since that's what I currently have with my 6S plus and have only used roughly half of the capacity.
Enjoy that beast
Ill post mine in a couple of weeks when it gets here---what color did you go with? -
I always go with the year specific colour, in this case, pacific blue. I don't use a case at all so the colour can be shown. if you use a case, I suppose it doesn't matter because it's covered.
yeah, good choice. given the prices, I don't think the 11s are relevant. at least not in the long run, might as well get the latest since you keep yours for a few years. I've got a lot of photos stored in my phone, so I went with 256gb. My last iPhone has already used about 110gb so I really do need that 256gb. don't need the 512gb for a few years, so it's a good in between.
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I always go with the year specific colour, in this case, pacific blue. I don't use a case at all so the colour can be shown. if you use a case, I suppose it doesn't matter because it's covered.
yeah, good choice. given the prices, I don't think the 11s are relevant. at least not in the long run, might as well get the latest since you keep yours for a few years. I've got a lot of photos stored in my phone, so I went with 256gb. My last iPhone has already used about 110gb so I really do need that 256gb. don't need the 512gb for a few years, so it's a good in between.
@louisbosco I just got back from my local MediaMarkt and held the 12pro max in my hand.
Its a done deal.
they will be here in a few weeks–-which I am surprised about since I always thought that Berlin was a major market.im going with that blue as well when I pull the trigger. It must go great with IH denim.
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@dinobarnesberlin I think the supply for them are also slightly constrained now with a lot of people withholding from getting it on day 1 just so they can feel the product. might be a different story for their retailers as opposed to an apple store. but I do hope you get your parcel soon and enjoy it!
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@dinobarnesberlin I think the supply for them are also slightly constrained now with a lot of people withholding from getting it on day 1 just so they can feel the product. might be a different story for their retailers as opposed to an apple store. but I do hope you get your parcel soon and enjoy it!
I think you are correct @louisbosco. Plus with the Corona, I think deliveries may vary depending on where you are. I was able to hold the display model in my hand and its not much of a change compared to what im used to with the 6Splus in terms of size.
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Ended up going to Poland last weekend to pick up the 12 pro max, since it still isn't available here in Berlin yet–which is kinda weird considering that Apple has launched a huge ad campaign all over the city for a phone that you cant even get your hands on yet.
I was lucky to get it last weekend, as they have now closed the borders again.
After a week of using it, updating it to 14.3 I can say that it is night and day compared to my old 6S plus.
The cameras alone were worth getting it, and now with the new update, Apple has introduces RAW format in portrait mode.
Did I need to spend so much on just a phone ?
No.
Do I equate the money that I spent on the phone to the same amount that I could have spent on IH gear?
Yes.But the bottom line was that my old phones battery was just about at the end of its life, and it was time to get a new one.
So that makes another item I can check off my list of things I needed....
Now I can look forward to getting more IH in 2021!
