Fast Food - A "Guilty" Pleasure….
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@Filthy:
What's wrong with coconut oil? I thought coconut butter was like a superfood. And I rinse my mouth with coconut oil to help my teeth. (I spit it out when I am done).
Yeah, a lot of the people I read love the stuff and believe the same thing. I did too until it drove my cholesterol very high (which isn't in itself necessarily bad, but the HDL/LDL ratios were). So I ditched it, and within weeks my markers were much improved. Everyone's physiology is different, but that experience made me come down on the side of mainstream orthodoxy around coconut oil–though to be fair, I think the research is far from settled. When I do saturated fats these days, it's usually grassfed ghee, though, being Southerners, we do keep bacon grease on hand.
I think what makes coconut oil beneficial is the medium-chain triglycerides, and what makes it potentially harmful is the very high percentage of saturated fats.
I know a lot of diets insist that vegetable oils, or at least canola, is beneficial, but I'll stick to olive and avocado oil for my unsaturated fats.
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That's very interesting. It seems just about everything is bad for you to a certain extent. I know I used to eat that coconut butter just about every day when I was a vegan. I lost a ton of weight. I don't really take care of my health though. I just kind of do whatever.
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@filthy
I think the nutritionist you were talking about is Vinnie Tortorich. He has a great podcast of his own and a lot of free info about his thoughts on his website. The simplified version of his beliefs is no sugar and no grains. He considers grains/carbohydrates the same as sugar. Once they get broken down in the liver they become sugar. Throw the USDA guidelines out the window. My favorite quote of his “you can’t out exercise a bad diet” -
@filthy
I think the nutritionist you were talking about is Vinnie Tortorich. He has a great podcast of his own and a lot of free info about his thoughts on his website. The simplified version of his beliefs is no sugar and no grains. He considers grains/carbohydrates the same as sugar. Once they get broken down in the liver they become sugar. Throw the USDA guidelines out the window. My favorite quote of his “you can’t out exercise a bad diet”@Sage954 actually the one I saw was Georgia Ede, MD. But she has the exact same philosophy.
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She is new to me. Good to have another opinion. I’m going to check her out. Thanks.
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@Filthy @Sage954 I think that philosophy is valid. I like the way this article puts it.
The linked article makes the point that if homo sapiens' lifespan were a day, these foods–grains, refined sugars, many of the starches common in our diets (potatoes were literally poisonous when the Inca detoxified them through a process of freezing them in the mountains to kill the toxins, for example), legumes, etc.--would have entered our diets at 11:57 PM.
Ancestral diets are not trying to replicate what cavemen ate, to address a favorite straw man for people who disagree with them. The point is that our species did not evolve eating these post-agricultural-revolution foods, and the theory is that they activate genes and create symptoms that are bad for our health. Can we eat things that we didn't evolve eating? Sure, we feed cattle corn, and they didn't evolve to eat that--they evolved four stomachs just so that they could extract solar energy from grass, not from starch. So it makes them sick and forces farmers to pump them full of antibiotics, and it makes them fat (sound familiar?). Being able to digest something obviously doesn't mean it's good for us. Could we evolve to tolerate these kinds of foods better? I bet we could, but not in a few mere centuries or even millennia.
But the facts on the ground are a) we did not evolve to eat these foods and b) they clearly have a negative impact on our health. So those folks are right: as long as b) holds, we should get rid of them.
Yes, I understand that french fries are potatoes and hamburger buns and pizza crusts are made from grains
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@mclaincausey
agree 100%. Feed lots are all carbs/corn to fatten the cattle. Does the same thing to us. Have you read the newest update on the weight and height of the average American. It’s astonishing. My biggest problem is that I like beer. Not exactly no grain no sugar. -
@mclaincausey
agree 100%. Feed lots are all carbs/corn to fatten the cattle. Does the same thing to us. Have you read the newest update on the weight and height of the average American. It’s astonishing. My biggest problem is that I like beer. Not exactly no grain no sugar.With you on the beer. Looked up the update you mentioned. Wow.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr122-508.pdf
Not only is it sad for those who will suffer through metabolic diseases and their loved ones, it's sad for society as a whole, which will bear the economic burden of this disease.
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I could only eat 5. Soon my size ups will be size downs. Thank God I am going back to work next week.
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Houston Hobby airport, terminal E, really excellent food. Except the bread was pretty cold and gross.
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Yeah, terminal E has some of the better restaurants at Hobby. There's a Niko Niko's over there, right? If you like Greek food, you should definitely go there the next time you're passing through.
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@Filthy:
Houston Hobby airport, terminal E, really excellent food. Except the bread was pretty cold and gross.
That looks tasty. There are a couple of bbq places in town I want to check out specifically for the brisket [emoji1786]
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@Clint_D I am working in a refinery in Colombia
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Man, Penn Station has the best Italian Sub I have ever eaten!! Holy smokes!
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I just ate Chick-Fil-A for the first time a few weeks ago. It was fine. Not a fast food eater so that may be my problem.
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Pastrami on burgers should be more common.
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There's a place on the beach in San Louis Opisbo, California called Mr. Pete's that puts pastrami on their burgers. So good.
Five guys
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Five guys is great!
Let's talk about that tomato pulls up soapbox and steps up. I haven't had a decent tomato that wasn't homegrown or purchased at a farmer's market in over 20 years. Fast food and mid-range restaurants aren't using tomatoes, yet people still ask for them. I actually love a tomato slice on my burger, but the plasticky, anemic, pink slices of so-called tomato aren't worth it. Why do we tolerate shitty tomatoes? We need to vote with our wallets.
Or maybe you enjoyed that tomato slice? If so, more power to you.
Grape tomatoes are the last good ubiquitous tomatoes. I'm sure we'll find a way to screw those up too.
