IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey
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@Giles said in Measuring- Questions, Answers and Comments:
Recently there have been a number of questions and "concerns" about posted measurements of our gear, both on ours and our retailers websites.
Firstly, we measure the way we do because it is the way that the Japanese clothing business measures. In the early days, I measured like some of our then retailers, this resulted in us sending in sample requests to Haraki and when we got the first sample back, they were always "wrong". So on a visit to Japan with @Madame-Buttonfly we asked Tom san to show us the way that she and the factories measure. So now when we send in a sample request we are giving Tom san measurements that she can send straight to the workshop.
I don't know why other western purveyors of Japanese Amekaji clothing measure differently to that, but they do. I suspect it is just a result of some early adopter doing it a particular way, and that just became the "norm".
So there is likely to be a perceived variance in published sizing between us and some of our retailers. For most of them, and also Iron Heart Japan, measuring accurately is not so critical as it is for us. If you are selling something in a shop, the punter can try the stuff on and cares not what the measurements are but only whether it looks good in the mirror.
We always remeasure when a new production run is received, I have no idea whether all our retailers do this or not.
If I lived my life again, I would try and insist that our retailers measured Iron Heart like us and published the same measurement tables, but I did not and we are where we are.
But please understand that our measurements are probably the most accurate you will find, they have to be, we basically only do online. The only problem you have is not knowing which batch a retailer holds.
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@hgering27 said in IHSH-254-GRY - Top Dyed Heavy Kersey Western Shirt - Grey:
all the other sites have the chest listed at about 25.5 while the IH measurements show it at 27.2, so its a fairly large difference
Some shops measure the chest from the armpit side seam to the armpit side seam. To be an accurate measurement, this assumes that the measurement from seam to seam is the same when measuring the front and the back.
Epic fail. Very rarely are these measurements the same, the back section is usually larger than the front measurement, so you need to lay the shirt flat and make sure that both the front and back sections are taught and measure that width, no seam to seam.
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Just received and another wow moment on the fabric. Stunning. 3D almost!
Thanks to my man @Travis for helping me with the size
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@doubletee freaking stellar!!!!
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@Mizmazzle thanks man
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@doubletee Oooooooooohhh
Check you out! Man that looks dope!!!
You're tempting me to get one....these are tight!Looks good on you though my guy
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@Germinal I like it man, relaxed vibes! Enjoy
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This shirt is soooo soft, XXXL is
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How is this different than flannel? It looks very "flannely" lol. I may haveade up a word? Looks great either way
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@CosmoSix5 This is a very good summation of Kersey:
@Alex said in IHSH-208 - Kersey Western:
IHSH-208 - Kersey Western** Please Note: Our version is 100% cotton, but**:
Kersey is a kind of coarse woollen cloth that was an important component of the textile trade in Medieval England.
It derives its name from kersey yarn and ultimately from the village of Kersey, Suffolk, having presumably originated in that region. However the cloth was made in many places. It was being woven as early as 1262 in Andover, Hampshire, where regulations prohibited the inclusion of Spanish wool in kerseys.[1] By 1475, the West Riding of Yorkshire including Calderdale was also a major producer, while Devon and Somerset were major producers and exporters until the manufacture later moved to serge making. Kersey was a lighter weight cloth than broadcloth. English kerseys were widely exported to central Europe[2] and other places: a surviving business letter[3] from the end of the 16th century recommends to trade kerseys for good wine on the Canary Islands.
Kersey yarns were spun in large gauges (thicknesses) from inferior carded wool, and made thick and sturdy cloth. Kersey was a warp-backed, twill-weave cloth woven on a four-treadle loom.
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I just received this shirt from James Dant in Indianapolis. I only did a quick "does it fit" but the fabric is really cool. It looks amazing. I'm glad I didn't get it to be a flannel type piece because it's not that. Looking forward to putting it through its paces.
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@CosmoSix5 It's still one of my favorite IH shirts hands down. Unique texture and also the perfect fit for me. Enjoy!
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Worn to the football game tonight. Cosmo's definition of this awesome fabric is a super soft 3ish wale corduroy.