Music
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Shifting the conversation over here for music discussion outside of our unpopular opinions; I was working in my studio this afternoon and put on some music that was recommended in the Unpopular Opinions thread.
I listened to Steely Dan: Aja. Twice in a row. Man, that's a SOLID album. I've been a very casual Steely Dan fan since I took drum lessons in middle school, but I've never really sat down and listened to an album. What an intro! My drum teacher was a big Steely Dan fan and picked them because the grooves are interesting and challenging, and make for really good practice. Thanks for the rec @mclaincausey , @Matt , @flannel-slut. And @Tago-Mago , I'm still planning on giving Opeth some listening time. I just need to get over this Steely Dan high first.
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@seawolf that album has Bernard Purdie, Steve Gadd, Ralph Humphrey, and Jim Keltner on drums, to name a few. Crazy jazz and session players on other instruments too. It would be hard to find an album with a better roster of talent.
I love the compositions, but the performances and production are just so insanely dialed in. Yet it still sounds natural and unforced and not overproduced.
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Was having this conversation with a buddy yesterday about bands or genres that are accepted in certain regions, but made fun of in others.
The example I'll give is the band Sublime.
I grew up on the beaches of FL, near St. Petersburg. When I was in middle school and high school, Sublime was loved by almost everyone. Making a beach playlist? Put it on. Want a slow jam to throw on at a party? Do it. Want a solid album to bump while driving down the beach with the windows down? Done.
When I moved to Nashville a little over 10 years ago, most people seem to not take them seriously. Make fun of them. Make fun of people that like them. Etc. Almost in the same way that I make fun of bands like Nickelback or Creed.
Is there a band or genre you grew up loving in your hometown area that seems to be a joke everywhere else?
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@chrisjohnnick making fun of Sublime? Fuck you, Nashville!
I guess in a similar vein 311 was big in college and I feel like maybe I’ve heard people kind of rip on them.
Idunno, is there a region where Nickelback are taken seriously?
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@chrisjohnnick and @mclaincausey Hey, I moved these posts form the Unpopular Opinions thread to keep the music vibes in the music thread.
Great question! It's not really true today, but when I was a teenager and into my early 20s, I was really into Phish. They had a small following outside of the northeast, but not nearly as concentrated as you'd find their fanbase in the northeast. I definitely used to get flack for being into them outside of my New England bubble.
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@seawolf also fuck whoever made fun of that.
I have seen dumbass tribalism from adherents of Phish about Panic and vice versa, and in the early days there was some of that between Dead and Phish fans.
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@mclaincausey I never gave a shit what anyone said. Phish, although not my favorite band anymore, are still absolutely incredible musicians. I still listen to their older shows from time to time, and they always sweep me away like they used to. I'm a little intimidated by their catalog from the 21st century, and haven't really listened to much of it.
The tribalism always confused me. I'm just here for the music. As a Phish and Dead fan, I can confidently say that it's all well-crafted music full of heart, soul, and talent. That said, I reach for the Dead more than just about anything, so I'm definitely a Deadhead with a deep appreciation of Phish.
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@dinobarnesberlin this has been all over my feeds this week...
Normally I enjoy semi-ironic 'so bad it's good' kinda stuff, but not this!
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@Graham ultra upvote!
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@seawolf yeah that’s me too. I will say though that Phish is still a blast live. I don’t dig the cheesy dad rock as much as the absurd older stuff but the performances and lights are still amazing.
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@mclaincausey Their lighting designer is incredible. The one thing that's always bugged me about Phish is their nonsense lyrics in some of the songs. Gamehenge on the other hand, is an epic rock opera, no matter how goofy it is.
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Yeah they’ve moved from absurdist lyrics into love and light crap. I’ll take the absurdism over that.
And Robert Hunter or JP Barlow over that.
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How about some Warren (and yes some Jeff Porcaro)?
