@Clint_D The shirts arrived early and they are great. Descriptions were spot on too. Huge thanks! I've got my eye on the red flannel…

@Clint_D Messaged you about a few of the mediums, very interested in getting a chambray and a denim.

Much obliged, especially given the inherently subjective nature of something like fit. I just find Japanese denim a little tough between sanforized, unsanforized, unsanforized but rinsed, etc. Really hard to know which combinations won't budge and which ones will stretch a lot. I guess I shouldn't be too concerned though - ill fitting jeans are what pushed me to go to my local shop Blue Owl in Seattle back in 2013 or 2014 which got me on the path. Never would've imagined I be reading forums and talking cut, color and fit with folks from around the world. Fun, fun hobby.

Selfies are bad enough but selfies of new clothes that get posted to get other people's (strangers, no less!) opinions were a bridge too far.

I sure hope they don't stretch too much. Almost all of my jeans are too big in the waist which is why I've been shopping while cooped up at home.

@neph93 do these look snug enough per you advice? Think you were the guru who suggested that in the random question thread.

Thanks, appreciate the help. Pretty comfortable as is. Here's what they look like courtesy of photos from my daughter who thinks it's hilarious that I'm posting photos of myself like this.

Somewhere else I'd read advice about getting them really snug because they stretch. These are my first IHs but other raws that weren't quite as snug in the waist stretched a ton and are now too big (Japan Blue, 3sixteen, N&F, etc.).

But yeah, I hear you, probably will stay put. I've been running a lot lately and probably can't keep that up indefinitely. Easier to do while working from home…

Just got my delivery, really liking the OD which I'd never seen in person before. Question for you guys on the fit. I can button them easily - no wrestling with top button - but they're a little snug on the hips which is good. And they're a little uncomfortable sitting down (manageable but wouldn't like that feeling to last very long).

That said, I'm wondering if I should consider sizing down from a 30 to a 29. The thighs on the 30s are about as snug as I'd like given that they probably won't stretch a huge amount.

Would appreciate some guidance because doing an exchange would require incurring some additional shipping costs with an uncertain outcome. My best guess is that thighs wouldn't work and, even if they did, I'd need to keep the top button unbottoned for a little while.

Yes, should work without wifi but you may want or need to turn off your video.

From the Zoom site: https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362893-How-much-bandwidth-do-I-need-when-using-3G-or-4G-LTE.

Much obliged. Will do my best to go on the tighter side to start. Part of my challenge is that I really only have one pair that fits ok in the waist and I seem to get slight variations each time I measure, in part because the jeans seem to have more of a curved waistband now that they're broken in (loose weeve). Think I'm close enough now after many tries; using the IH way I get 31 inches so going to try the size 30. Definitely need a hem at some point but will wait until I get the sizing sorted out.

Did your ODs bleed much?

I'm clearly a bit of a waffler myself, so very much appreciated Neph. And I'm super glad you were the first to reply - was hoping that'd be the case.

Thanks for the guidance on the 633 in combination with the XHS. I was leaning toward the 888S-OD because I was a little intimidated by the prospect of taming the XHS as my first foray into the wonderful world of IH.

On the waist size, I confess I really don't know if I'm a 30 inch waist of not. I'd read your take on the OD being super stretchy which is why I was so interested in getting your take on which size to go with. My PBJs definitely are 15 inches the Blue Owl way, and maybe closer to 29-29.5 the SE way, but maybe that's why I'm not crazy about them. (They're not tight at all but not a relaxed fit either.) I was kinda thinking I'd order the 30s first, and if those aren't sufficiently tight, I'd return them and go for the 29. Also wondering if the 29 thighs would be sufficiently roomy - SE has a much bigger spread between the thigh sizes on their site (11.2 vs. 11.5) vs. IH's measurements. Go figure, they're normally pretty close.