Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?

[EdH]

I had to do a double take, but there are a number of distinguishing features in the shirt itself (single yoke, button flaps, pocket shapes, buttons not snaps) and in the colours used in the sax pattern (the UES one has no red or grey) when you look closely. Would require experienced IP counsel (which I am not) to advise on this one if IH was minded to make a big deal of it.

[ARNC]

Again, this is at the periphery of what I do, but enforcing unregistered rights can be hard work. Even if IH won, I wonder if there would be any worthwhile remedies as the anny shirt has been and gone. It could be different if we were looking at a continuous production item. As it is, is there any real damage apart from @Alex being somewhat narked (important but maybe not worth the hassle/expense of going to war)?

[Alex]

Thanks, guys. At this point, the biggest deal I will make about it is bitching about it here

[Matt]

We’re here to listen friend. Not really but saying that a lot has kept me married for 16 years so I figured it would work here too.

Also, the original design is from a long time ago so that 3 year statute probably would have expired.

Let’s just say imitation is the highest form of flattery.

[Tom Longarms]

Sorry if that has been done before and I’m not aware it’s a thing, but have you guys seen indigofera over dyed flannel that came out the other day? I instantly thought of IH one coming in the future.

[Alex]

IF did this several years ago too - can't blame them for doing it again, and was not inspired by our announcement!

[Oaktavia]

[darbycrash]

i think this is a fake. i noticed the top zipper doesn't have the leather pull strip and the draw strings on the bottom dont look right. neither do the sleeve cuffs in the photos where they are turned inside out. ships from japan, link to the listing below. there are several identical listings from different sellers too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296002908606

[tody]

I am pretty sure this is legit. There are quite a few sellers in Japan reselling the stuff on eBay. If I'm not mistaken, the pictures are taken straight off the IH Japan site: https://ironheart.shop-pro.jp/?pid=174961131

[october rust]

What also muddies the waters now is that a ton of Ebay accounts are basically just proxies for items listed for sale on the Japanese auction sites. You'll see 20 people list the same item for sale at a markup hoping that someone buys through them.

[Matt]

The stuff is legit but you go to buy it and they’re like, Whoops, it’s sold already. I hate that.

[goosehd]

One of the main reasons I ask for individuals to post pictures of their actual items in the forum’s marketplace. You may think it’s a pain in the ass, but at least you know that what you’re buying is actually what you’re buying…

Too many people trying to make a quick buck out there now with all kinds of schemes going on. The secondary luxury watch market is nuts and probably goes for the rest of the luxury markets…

[darbycrash]

@tody ah yeah youre right. so i guess the japanese version is actually different from the western one.

[Giles]

No it is not

[darbycrash]

@Giles im just noticing these slight details that seem to be different is all --
western:

jp:

i dont mean to say the actual piece is any different. this is what threw me off when trying to determine whether or not the ebay listing i was looking at was legit.

[Giles]

Virtually nothing we make differs from Japan v International. If it looks different it's either shite photography or a fake.

[Kasi]

The real question is
Is he buying it if not fake.

[Alexey164]

good afternoon, help, is it fake or not? IH-666-XHS 21oz

[Alexey164]

666 XHS should be 25oz, the arches on the pockets are not noticeable, there is no brand on buttons

[Giles]

Yeah sorry. I noticed that and deleted my post.

It's very difficult to tell. But the denim does not look like 25oz to me.

We may have done some with stealth arcs and we may have done some with unbranded buttons, I can't remember